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Live4This
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| 03/15/2009 10:06 PM |
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| i disagree with the comment on over doing modesty...i dont think you will be less attractive if you were a t shirt vs. a modest tfitting shirt. it all depends on the taste of the guy. I think it is wrong to say that girls that dont dress up or dont enjoy shopping and doing girly things wont get lasting attention. Agian it depends on the guy
i think that the main thing is to be comfortable with who you are
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MyLifeHisWill
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| 03/16/2009 7:35 AM |
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| Yea I mean...I try to be modest, I'm not flaunting my body, and going along with Mike here, I want my body to be a suprise "in the bedroom." But i gotta agree with emilyjanelle and locke and william. I mean, I realize WHY some women dress that way, but I must ask, "Is it nessesary?" Heres a good saying, "Dress in clothes that show your a woman, but also show that your a lady." In other words, don't hide that your a girl! Shapeless dresses, long, uncut hair.....I mean, even if you decide to wear only dresses, can't they be figure-flattering (not tight and skimpy or baggy) and have a cute pattern? Yet, at the same time, dress so men respect you and don't see you as "easy." Show your a lady of God to be RESPECTED. Modesty, I think, depends on the person, so if you like those dresses and all please DONT CHANGE!!! But, I mean, for me, its just waaaay too much! You are a beautiful creation of God, why try to make yourself homely and unatractive? You can be cute and godly! God never said "please be ugly for Me." Anyone read about Esther? She was the MOST BEAUTIFUL virgin out of every girl in the kingdom! Did she wear homely dresses? I think not. Yes, of course she wore tunics and such, but I do believe tunics could be becoming, not just a bag. And do you think she simply let her face be? Or did she wash it and take care of it? Did she not go through a year of preperation and oils and such? Did she just let her hair fall in fluffy idk...blobs? Or did she comb it and do it nicely? Esther was a beautiful woman, enough so to attract a pagan King who could have cared less about her internal beauty. So i don't think that being beautiful is a sin. Don't hide your beauty! You were made, BY GOD, to be BEAUTIFUL!!! Dont flaunt what is to be your husbands and HIS ONLY, but dont hide yourself either! Be beautiful, not showy. Be beautiful, not homely. I mean, I see some of those girls who dress in the long baggy dresses and I think, "Even if her father says she must wear dresses and can't wear makeup, she could look so much better taken care of if she found a more flattering dress and took more time fixing her hair." I mean, i would never try to change anyone, but beauty is so simple, and sometimes we hide even the simplest things because we are afraid! Boys, I wanna ask you - does taken care-of hair cause you to stumble? Simple makeup (nothing trashy, just mascara, blush and eyeshadow)? A nice long dress that is fitted in a cute pattern or even solid color? I mean, I don't do the "only dresses" thing, but even if you want to be "very modest," You can still do it in style and in beauty....k yea imma be quiet now lol..... |
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Nicole
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| 03/16/2009 12:25 PM |
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MyLifeHisWill, man you pretty much nailed it. I would have said about the same thing, maybe not in so many words though.  But anyway aside from what you wear, I think modesty also applies to your character, how you represent yourself to the world. Dress modestly and beautifully and also represent God's character within and I believe you'll be very attractive. There's a phrase that reads: "beauty is only skin deep", it basically emphasizes the point that it's what's inside that counts, that physical beauty isn't everything. I totally agree. |
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MyLifeHisWill
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| 03/16/2009 4:11 PM |
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| haha yea Nicole I have a tendency to write alot....my Comp Speech teacher dislikes my wordy style lol - but i agree - modesty is in the heart |
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ERC
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| 03/16/2009 5:33 PM |
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MyLifeHisWill, I am one of the people who wear "only dresses".
I do it because of this verse:
Deut.22:5
The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God.
You can find some really cute, stylish skirts out there that don't look "Amishy" ( Sick! I hate cape dresses! ). You have to look harder to find nice skirts, but there are some out there.
Personally , I think skirts are more modest then pants because it isn't fitted around your legs and your backside.
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Mike
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| 03/16/2009 7:58 PM |
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Modesty of the sort I'm thinking of doesn't extend over into the realm of makeup and taking care of oneself. I was referring merely to the actual clothing. There's nothing wrong with makeup and using hair products all the other "beauty stuff" I've probably never even heard of. I liked the reference to Esther. Of course she did all the beauty treatments, but living in those times she probably dressed modestly as well (Especially by our standards).
Perhaps a way to separate the two is to say that modesty has to do with sex appeal (exciting people sexually), and taking care of yourself has to do with beauty (looking good). So if you dress modestly and take care of yourself, and do the other girl stuff that I know nothing of (what does an anti-frizzing volumizing shining strengthening polishing fixing restoring hair product do anyhow?), you'll be set. |
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MyLifeHisWill
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| 03/17/2009 6:57 AM |
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| ERC, I don't mean to offend you if you do wear all dresses. Honestly, I think skirts are cute and if my dad told me it was all dresses from here on out, I wouldn't terribly mind. The only thing that would get to me is #1 if knee-length skirts weren't allowed and #2 if they had to be baggy and such. I respect your view on modesty, and like I said, why not find a cute skirt? Which you said you did. So i am sorry if I offended anyone here.... |
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ERC
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| 03/17/2009 9:26 AM |
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| MyLifeHisWill, I'm not offended at all, and I totally agree with you about the baggy, frumpy skirts! |
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wjr1991
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| 03/17/2009 2:27 PM |
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@ERC: If I'm not mistaken, Levi Strauss came a long time after Deuteronomy... as far as I'm aware, both women and men wore robes at that point in time...
Might I ask your opinion on the kilt? |
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wjr1991
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| 03/17/2009 2:29 PM |
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| That's not meant to be offensive, btw, I really am curious about the kilt... |
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ERC
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| 03/17/2009 7:00 PM |
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wjr1991-In biblical times, the robes men and women wore had a difference in their styles. Why would the verse be in the Bible if the all dressed about the same?
About the kilt- I hadn't really thought about it, but I guess, since it looks ALOT like a skirt, it would probably be a no go. |
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MyLifeHisWill
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| 03/18/2009 7:22 AM |
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| Personally I think kilts are icky lol I mean, great if its ur heritage and all but idk it can be just strange to see a guy in a kilt....lol.....and to ERC I have a question, tunics in biblical times were similar but obviously different for men and women, yet, isn't it the same in today's society? If you were to see a pair of jeans for guys and a pair for girls, they are similar, but quite obviously different ~ How do you feel on that? Is it just a matter of modesty reffering to your backside and legs? |
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Locke
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| 03/18/2009 1:02 PM |
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Pants for men and women today aren't exactly the same, either. And plenty of skirts are still out there. I'm not condemning you or anything, just pointing out that clothes still aren't identical. There are no pants for women out there that I could buy and ever fit into in any way. And I doubt any woman could ever wear MY pants. (I'm tall and very slender).
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Adelynn
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| 03/18/2009 3:13 PM |
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okay, I agree that there is a difference in womens and mens clothing (and should be, if for no other reason than just because it's a little awkward when you can't tell... *coughahem*) just in styles, whether jeans or tunics. I do wear guys clothing, sometimes, though. I'm really fairly feminine, I'm just built that way, and I don't try to look like a guy (except for a few plays and just fooling around a few times, but I didn't try to not look like a girl), I just really love guys shorts (which usually barely fit, but they are at least LONG) and some guys sleeveless shirts (which actually have SHOULDERS)
haha so anyway, my take is that I don't think guys/girls should especially dress like the opposite gender, and guys for the most part shouldn't wear girls clothing, but I think that clothing is clothing and if you still look like a girl or guy when you put it on, it's cool. |
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ERC
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| 03/18/2009 9:53 PM |
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| what is the difference between men's and women's pants? |
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Adelynn
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| 03/18/2009 10:14 PM |
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| how they fit is different |
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"... I will pour out my Spirit upon all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy..." Acts 2.17
What If His People Prayed? |
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Locke
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| 03/19/2009 1:21 PM |
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| Because this website apparently doesn't support hyperlinking...
The link below describes the Bible verse you mentioned above, and goes into a description of the meaning behind the original Hebrew. Not to say you're wrong to wear what you are, just what the verse meant.
http://www.actseighteen.com/articles/women-pants.htm |
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ERC
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| 03/19/2009 6:01 PM |
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MyLifeHisWill, about the modesty - at a church camp we go to, the president of a Bible collage said "if a girl could find modest pants, I wouldn't have a problem with it. But as of yet, I haven't seen any."
Yes, that is the main reasons why I don't wear pants. Wearing skirts are also more feminine, and ladylike. My sisters take piano lessons from a Professor at a secular collage near us. The men there respect them and treat them like ladies because the dress AND act like ladies. Also a professor there said they always dress nicely, so you can wear skirts and have people think you dress nicely. |
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JoJo
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| 03/19/2009 10:04 PM |
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Well, Im not against skirts or dresses, but why I wear pants more is because, well, im a dancer, and I do impromtu cartwheels etc at any random moment, and it's more modest if I'm wearing pants doing them... plus i feel uncomfortable if a guy can see up my skirt...
Guys jeans tend to be more loose, and would you ever catch a guy wearing flares??
Maybe in the hippie days...
but there are major differences to guys and girls pants... I've had to wear guy's pants for dances, and ick... I hate how they sit on me... I feel like a guy, lol. but yeah, you can get modest pants... cuz Im a "street" dancer, I wear baggy sweats for dancing, and well, they totally don't hug your shape, but you can still tell I'm a girl and I don't look extremely hideous in it, I still look girly... but yeah...
I do wear skirts, but hardly ever, and I only wear dresses for formal occasions, and I always wear shorts underneath... |
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MyLifeHisWill
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| 03/20/2009 7:09 AM |
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| ERC - personally I love dresses and skirts. Put me back 60/70/80 years and I would have been fine that girls were expected to wear them all the time. Cute skirts? I love em! The summer is my favorite because of the cute sun dresses they have out. I agree with Jojo that sometimes I feel awkward in a skirt when its windy or even just hanging out, im always afraid there will be some activity I can't participate in cuz of my skirt. And I would really rather my skirt not fly up around guys, and since I prefer knee-length (not any shorter unless I have burmudas on beneath them) skirts an dresses, they fly up easily. I have to wear a kaki knee-length skirt and blue button-down oxford to school for my uniform, so I'm used to skirts and I dont mind them, but when its cold outside I hate it! Its sooooo chilly in those skirts! Our uniforms are practically bags on us girls, which is to "keep the focus on academics" lol and its kinna comfy so I don't mind. I wear dresses alot in the summer, but because #1 stores dont sell knee-length dresses around here ( they always hit 2-3 inches above the knee)and #2 to solve the whole "Skirt flying up thing" I almost always wear cute burmudas beneath for added coverage and modesty....So yea thats my little disertation on skirts. I have no problem with them at all, just personall a cute pair of jeans are amazing! And I think you can dress in a pair of slacks and a nice top and behave like a lady and still be treated like one, though I think its great that those guys respect your sisters. |
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