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Liz
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| 01/04/2010 8:45 PM |
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I just feel like, if I was absolutely perfect, loved myself, and loved others, I could achieve true happiness.
I don't believe that. No one can be perfect. It's just that way. No one can absolutly love everyone around them. would you love people who kill innocent citizens, or get kids addicted to drugs? It's hard (maybe impossible, unless there is a significant Someone involved) to be completely and truely happy! Maybe you get cought in the moment and say you are, but it doesn't last. Sooner than later you'll see something you like and say "If I can only get that, I'll be truely happy". But then you'll find something else and it'll go on and on. or maybe you just get sick with the flu. I'm not happy when I'm sick. Just something to consider. |
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smileybookworm
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| 01/04/2010 8:50 PM |
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true contentedness does only come from one man, and I'm so happy that he's my friend!  |
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Jesus has a thing for losers.
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clare
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| 01/05/2010 3:13 PM |
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Three cheers for Adelynn! Speak it girl! I couldn't stop laughing when you said "she smiled at you, dang I'm jealous" I had to have my brother read it.
Well Mr. Audacious I would love to meet you. I have a quick wit and sharp tongue and could whip you in circles so fast! Not boasting here at all. I've met guys like you and sure you're lots of fun. But the men I like are the steady eddy and extremely quiet.Quiet guys can be tons of fun too. And I'm afraid I'm more like you than I want to admit. I took my friends hat...
"Give it back"
"No sir!"
"I'll turn your galsses into a work of art"
"you wouldn't dare mess with me, I'm a girl"
"Ok you're right but I'll kiss you if you don't give it back now please"
and That Always makes me give it back immediately! But it's all in fun!
I'm glad you have found what works for you, but as someone mentioned how would you do with the girl who is firm in what she believes and won't budge? And I think you are overlooking the power girls actually do have on guys. All you are seeing is this great and wonderful power you have on girls, but honestly I can get any guy to do anything I want. Some guys it takes a sweet smile, some it takes a threat to swipe their keys, just have to find what makes each guy tick. And when it comes to manipulating, girls got it down man, it's in their blood! Some of us choose to use it and some not. (I try not to too much, it isn't fair or nice to the guy)
No one is truly perfect. True happiness can't come from loving yourself. Gosh I'd keel over dead if happiness only came from loving myself. I think I'm a rather hard person to love in my opinion!
I'm not trying to pick you apart You sound way to much like myself. I just love a good discussion! |
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nateynate
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| 01/05/2010 10:23 PM |
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| Haha you girls are like rocking him ha i love it. Ha. But back to one of my points before, ya a book might tell you how to be confident, but those are only suggestions, every guy is different and will find confidence in their own way, its a trait you acquire, not teach. And really, "owe it to myself" sorry but that is pathetic if you owe yourself perfection. Ya i saw the movie and if you dont remember, he was trying to help everyone else and gave his life to do it (a little symbolic of Jesus if you ask me) but you should owe nothing to yourself for you werent the one who created you or gave you breath. Yea im gonna say we owe it all to God, not because im a Christian though, but because it is true. He is our life and our soul and its to him all we owe. |
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" Wake up oh my soul
wake up and praise the Lord
rise up you sleepy soul
rise up and praise the Lord"
Enter Your Gates |
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Cerno4500
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| 01/06/2010 12:25 AM |
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If you truly like someone you will like someone because of who they are. There is so much more to a girl then just their looks. In my life for example, I'm getting to know a very beautiful girl who is into poetry. But what makes the reason why I love her so much is that because she has been through so much in her life, that she was able to become someone stronger because of her faith. She has struggled but is a better person because of it.
This book helped me in a lot of ways. It's not really a book on how to get girls. Its a book on trying to understand the opposite sex, because as humans that is one of the things we should do. All the dating advice in the world is not going to help if you don't understand how the other gender operates. Guys must be confident in themselves because the girl who will like them will cherish them despite their faults. and if the girl doesn't like them because of their faults, then she is not worth it to pursue. |
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mraudacious
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| 01/07/2010 10:31 AM |
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hey, I'm really liking all the responses I've gotten back. Especially the ones that have been critical of my views. To be honest, I expected that, and it's really helped me take a look at myself objectively.
So, a few things to address.
First, Clarissa, you sound like a really fun girl. This is exactly the kind of thing that I was trying to explain to people in this forum. You know how to have fun. That's really good
also, I want to address my desire to become perfect.
I think this desire kinda stems back from years ago, where I felt I needed supermodel looks, a great singing voice, being able to play guitar, really fit, stuff like that. I mean, you see it in ALL THE MOVIES.
also, when you meet a girl you would do anything for (she totally seduced me, I was so helpless to her charm) you want to be the best you can, to be that perfect guy, who will sweep her off her feet, make her madly in love with you, make her happy etc. So, I guess, when I say "Perfect", what i really mean is a desire to make that special girl know just how special you are.
and a few things.
That stuff I had said about guy's having the choice...
it's really not the guy's choice. it's really not the girl's choice.
but whoever understands how attraction works, will be the one who can choose what person they want. If a guy spends time to understand attraction, he will have the power in a situation, and he can get that girl he wants. So yes, if you understand this. You can get ANY GIRL YOU WANT. and it can be the guys choice. and that's good for the guys. and I'm not insecure about being me. I love me for me. I don't need other's to love me, but if they do, then I'm happy with that.
(If you don't want to hear that, then that's your problem. I'm just stating what is really happening; I'm not going to be tentative about it.)
but after a while, he will get emotionally attached to that girl, and then it's really no longer his choice, but the girl's. but the girl will feel the same way about the guy.
But by that point, the 2 of you just want to be together (this is so awesome this is what it's all about)
Also, Liz, you did bring up a good point, about how we want things that we don't have.
But when something is so out of reach, so hard to achieve, you really really want it.
and when you get it, yes, you are really happy, but only for a while. but perfection is always something you can't achieve. no one can be perfect. but to strive for it is ok, i think. It's heathy, it means you care about yourself. I really enjoy reading what you have to say, because most of the time, you're right!
Adelynn.
You should learn to love yourself.
look at you, all you want to do is tell me off to feel better about yourself.
It doesn't affect me, but it's worrying to see that you're like that. I hope you can get better.
Try to have a nice day, ok?
smileybookworm.
you are what's missing in this world. you make me smile. you're an idealist, I really appreciate that.
there should really be more people like you.
I love how this quote "with great power comes great responsiblity" isn't valid according to you, because it's from Spiderman. hahaha I just had to say that. but have you seen that movie? oh my god, it's so good.
How would having the upper-hand in a situation make me a dictator? It makes me the one in control of my reality.
It's not about changing yourself and not be who you are.
It's about improving who you are so you can become a better person. How is that bad?
and there is no way you have to "settle" for a guy either. but that wasn't my point. The point was that guys shouldn't feel like they need to settle for average girls. and really, they shouldn't. same goes for girls. Everyone deserves the best. |
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Liz
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| 01/07/2010 4:24 PM |
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If a guy spends time to understand attraction, he will have the power in a situation, and he can get that girl he wants.
That is not always true. If a guy is really nice, considerate, gentlemanly, and affectionate, what's saying she's falling in love with him?? A friend of mine was going to start going out with this one great, attentive Christian guy. Then she started thinking. She didn't love him for himself very much. She fell in love with being loved. So, a guy may (occasionally) have the upper hand if they are a really affectionate, caring person, but girl might not love them, just their attention.
(disclaimer: This is not always true, just some cases) |
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A girl should be so lost in God that a guy has to go in Him in order to find her |
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Liz
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| 01/07/2010 4:27 PM |
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but have you seen that movie? oh my g--, it's so good.
Actually I didn't think it was that great. But I am a highly critical movie watcher.
BTW, please don't use the "omg" phrase. Remember, you're on a Christian site. |
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clare
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| 01/09/2010 8:35 PM |
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Well you're the first to use my real name on here! I do go by Clare though!
Can we be fair about this Mr. A? If you're expressing you're views than I get to express mine. I am a Christian so sorry if you don't agreebut whoever understands how attraction works, will be the one who can choose what person they want. If a guy spends time to understand attraction, he will have the power in a situation, and he can get that girl he wants. So yes, if you understand this. You can get ANY GIRL YOU WANT.
Why would a guy want to use some persuasive powers to get a girl? How about instead of trying to make a girl like you you wait until you find a girl who's personality and values are the same as yours? Someone who will like you when you are in a bad mood and not being quite so charming and polite.
But by that point, the 2 of you just want to be together (this is so awesome this is what it's all about
I agree..and disagree! Yes a couple should desire to be around eachother. But that's not what it's all about. Right now I really like the most amazing young man. He is very shy and quiet, but we have the same morals, ideals, values and goals in life. I was talking to my mom about some things and she was saying when two young people are good freinds looking at dating one inportant questions needs to be asked..."how can the two of us together with our talents and interests make a difference? Will our character compliment eachother enough that we can make things better around us" It's not all about US and TOGETHER its about OTHERES and WHAT WE CAN DO.
There's more to life than just loving yourself and doing what pleases you most and getting any girl you want. Sick! I just spent an month away doing mission work and I tell you the last thing on your mind when you're in a poor country is "how can I make myslef happy" happiness is in working your guts out for someone else, seeing the light in a poor man's eyes when he hears about Jesus and is forgiven. Hapiness is in holding an orphan that is dirty, smelly and unloved. It'scleaning bathrooms days on end and singing while you're at it. It's loving others and loving them more than yourself. And you know what? Doing all those things makes a person happier than anything I've ever done!
Now I'm curious what you're going to say back.LOL |
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smileybookworm
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| 01/11/2010 5:05 PM |
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| Amen. |
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Jesus has a thing for losers.
-Losers by Me in Motion |
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nateynate
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| 01/11/2010 8:09 PM |
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" Wake up oh my soul
wake up and praise the Lord
rise up you sleepy soul
rise up and praise the Lord"
Enter Your Gates |
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nateynate
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| 01/11/2010 8:10 PM |
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| That made me smile clare |
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" Wake up oh my soul
wake up and praise the Lord
rise up you sleepy soul
rise up and praise the Lord"
Enter Your Gates |
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clare
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| 01/11/2010 8:19 PM |
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| haha glad to brighten your day. I noticed you posted that at 8:09. It's 5:09 here. I have no idea where you are from but you're obviously ahead of me? So hows life going to look in two hours? lol |
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nateynate
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| 01/11/2010 8:29 PM |
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Uhhh its only 5:30 where im at haha i live in California ha under yours it also said you posted at like 8 though  |
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" Wake up oh my soul
wake up and praise the Lord
rise up you sleepy soul
rise up and praise the Lord"
Enter Your Gates |
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clare
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| 01/11/2010 8:33 PM |
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| Oh! Weird. Well being in CA you shouldn't have different times. I'm from WA |
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nateynate
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| 01/11/2010 8:35 PM |
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| haha yea thats wierd oh cool sorry bout the seahawks :p ha |
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" Wake up oh my soul
wake up and praise the Lord
rise up you sleepy soul
rise up and praise the Lord"
Enter Your Gates |
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clare
Posts:932
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| 01/11/2010 10:16 PM |
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| Dork! lol I couldn't care less about the seahawks! Let me die before I have to watch sports. my sis's boyfriend is a Packer fan and I can't stand being around him. Wonder how far off topic we can get. |
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nateynate
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| 01/12/2010 10:59 AM |
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| haha sorry sorry haha i dont know how far off we could get haha i do wonder where that Mr. Audacious guy went ha i think you scared him :p haha |
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" Wake up oh my soul
wake up and praise the Lord
rise up you sleepy soul
rise up and praise the Lord"
Enter Your Gates |
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Liz
Posts:341
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| 01/12/2010 12:36 PM |
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I would like to second an Amen to what Clare said WAAAAAY up there.  You go Girl!!
Wondering..Is it warmer over on the west coast? there? I'm currently located stuck in my house in MN, cuz if I go outside my nose will immediatly freeze and fall off. ha ha ha....not really funny.
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A girl should be so lost in God that a guy has to go in Him in order to find her |
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Liz
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| 01/12/2010 12:37 PM |
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| sorry, my fingers are froze too, which explains my lack or proper wording and placing of question marks. :-P |
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A girl should be so lost in God that a guy has to go in Him in order to find her |
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