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DaughterofEve
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| 10/03/2008 1:27 PM |
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I just go an e-mail about the new FYMO book. I don't want to sound mean or anything, but I do not like how the girls were dressed, or how they were dancing in the music video. http://www.foryoungmenonly.com/BooksStudies/ForYoungMenOnly/tabid/141/Default.aspx They girls, I believe, were wearing way too short shorts, and some has low cut shirts. Maybe if it were just for girls to watch, but it's a vid for the guys to watch.
(If any guys are reading this, watch everything except the music vid).
Anyways, I hope that in the next vid, they don't move their waists like that as they dance, that they have longer shorts, and looser, higher shirts. |
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wjr1991
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| 10/03/2008 2:04 PM |
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I saw that about as soon as it went up on the site, and never noticed any of that... and that type of dance seems quite normal for that style of music, as a performance dance (like, to be done on stage- I could see problems with it being an audience dance... somehow related to my disdainful opinion of moshing as a proper form of dance)... So, as a rather conservative guy, I must say I wasn't bothered by it... and don't think I would have been bothered by it had I been on location during the filming. |
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emilyjanelle
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| 10/03/2008 2:24 PM |
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eww, eww, eww! i laughed, i rolled my eyes, i squirmed...i really didn't know what to do! who EVER decided to put those girls in THOSE shorts, BAD judgment call, VERY bad call. i would NOT be caught dead walking out of the house in shorts any where NEAR as short as most of those girls! this has me so mad, i don't even know what else to put. what was up with that asian girl and her chest falling out?! and all the 'come-hither' looks i got?! EXCUSE ME?! NU-UH! i am seriously, just...so, mad. i'll stop now before i make a fool out of myself. :| |
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smartblonde77
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| 10/03/2008 11:26 PM |
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i didn't see anything wrong with it!! honestly! i mean the shorts could have been longer some of them hade nice shorts on but my cousin where shorts half tht length you can see just about every thing i didn't see anythin wrong with the dance either.... my opinion!  |
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eilla
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| 10/04/2008 12:29 AM |
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| i agree with smat blond and wjr1991, i dodn't see any asian girl's "chest falling out." also, the shorts didn't reveal anything other than leg....some of the girls were even wearing shorts/pants below the knee. besides, the outfits fit the beachy background. no offence....everyone's entitled to their opinon. |
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prettygirl
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| 10/04/2008 3:39 PM |
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| ugh!!! i thought they were waayyy too short! the one's with longer shorts were fine, but the ones where they barely covered? no way!!!! i realize that that's normal for a lot of girls, but not me!!! |
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emilyjanelle
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| 10/04/2008 8:40 PM |
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| eh, in my opinion, that shouldn't be 'normal' for upstanding Christian girls telling guys to read a book about them. the shorts could've and should've been shorter, no excuses, according to me. so what if the shorts only revealed their legs? that can still be immodest. and if the outfits fit the beachy background, then i guess we can all wear skin-tight booty shorts when we go to the beach, because it fits the weather? i'm just so confused as to why the producers or whomever was in charge of this let them dress and act like that. i hope they get wind of this and read these comments, i really do. |
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DaughterofEve
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| 10/04/2008 8:46 PM |
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Posted By emilyjanelle on 10/04/2008 8:40 PM eh, in my opinion, that shouldn't be 'normal' for upstanding Christian girls telling guys to read a book about them. the shorts could've and should've been shorter, no excuses, according to me. so what if the shorts only revealed their legs? that can still be immodest. and if the outfits fit the beachy background, then i guess we can all wear skin-tight booty shorts when we go to the beach, because it fits the weather? i'm just so confused as to why the producers or whomever was in charge of this let them dress and act like that. i hope they get wind of this and read these comments, i really do.
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Phlooshwaa
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| 10/05/2008 7:33 PM |
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JoJo here... I watched the video, and honestly, being a dancer who has gone to a Christian dance college, the dancing on that video is NOT that bad. It was nothing compared to what we learnt at the Christian dance college. We had to do body rolls, chest pops, etc, it wasnt like pole dancing or anything, but according to what you guys have said, you'd be shocked at what we learnt. but Im just saying, If the dance on the video on the FWMO website is provocative, you cant have seen what normal christian danceschools are teaching. And I mean, compared to music video's and movies like step up, stomp the yard etc, it's way more modest!like 100% way more modest. For young men who havent watched music video's, they'dnot really think toomuch about it. and if they have seen the video's they wouldnt think twice either, cuz they'd have seen alot worse! As for the shorts, to me it looks like summer camp gym-type uniforms. and it's on the beach, so to me, it's normal. For me, when I see girls wearing micro mini skirts and shorts, etc I feel like screaming inside and saying "dont you value yourself" so I am a huge clothes critic! but, to me, it looked like an all girl setting and the shorts, for exercise and the beach, werent that short.Granted though, the one girl had really short ones on, but that was all I had a problem with... and if any of you have been to club type dances, or school dances, the stuff they do there can be alot worse... James, my brother watched it and I asked him if he saw anything wrong, he said "no, what was I supposed to see wrong?" The girls werent doing the facials that would suggest anything provocative, so i dont really see a problemwith it. That's just my oppinion, coming from a huge dancing background... |
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DaughterofEve
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| 10/06/2008 12:44 PM |
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I do understand that there are worse videos out there, but I still don't agree with the vid. I don't think that we should set our standards to "cleaner than ______." I'd rather have my standard be just "clean." My opinion. |
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emilyjanelle
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| 10/06/2008 12:50 PM |
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agreed. :] |
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Phlooshwaa
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| 10/07/2008 3:04 AM |
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JoJo: O.k. honestly, do I have to put up a link to some of our dances from last year that I did at a CHRISTIAN dance school, just to show you guys that the vid isnt even that bad. and i did NOT see an asian girls chest falling out... wat vid did you watch?? And what is the point of even debating the topic?? Honestly... I do get it that some guys could maybe stumble, but like, only really dodgy guys would look at it that way... I donno. I just think it's pointless arguing over it... |
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DaughterofEve
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| 10/07/2008 8:21 AM |
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I know some guys who WOULD find a problem with it. It's great that some guys don't see it as a problem. But, as you said, some guys would; and our job is to help not make ANY stumble (not just most). Matthew 5:28 but I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart. Those "couple of guys" might do just that. |
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emilyjanelle
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| 10/07/2008 10:05 AM |
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Welcome with open arms fellow believers who don't see things the way you do. And don't jump all over them every time they do or say something you don't agree with—even when it seems that they are strong on opinions but weak in the faith department. Remember, they have their own history to deal with. Treat them gently. For instance, a person who has been around for a while might well be convinced that he can eat anything on the table, while another, with a different background, might assume he should only be a vegetarian and eat accordingly. But since both are guests at Christ's table, wouldn't it be terribly rude if they fell to criticizing what the other ate or didn't eat? God, after all, invited them both to the table. Do you have any business crossing people off the guest list or interfering with God's welcome? If there are corrections to be made or manners to be learned, God can handle that without your help. Or, say, one person thinks that some days should be set aside as holy and another thinks that each day is pretty much like any other. There are good reasons either way. So, each person is free to follow the convictions of conscience. What's important in all this is that if you keep a holy day, keep it for God's sake; if you eat meat, eat it to the glory of God and thank God for prime rib; if you're a vegetarian, eat vegetables to the glory of God and thank God for broccoli. None of us are permitted to insist on our own way in these matters. It's God we are answerable to—all the way from life to death and everything in between—not each other. That's why Jesus lived and died and then lived again: so that he could be our Master across the entire range of life and death, and free us from the petty tyrannies of each other. So where does that leave you when you criticize a brother? And where does that leave you when you condescend to a sister? I'd say it leaves you looking pretty silly—or worse. Eventually, we're all going to end up kneeling side by side in the place of judgment, facing God. Your critical and condescending ways aren't going to improve your position there one bit. Read it for yourself in Scripture: "As I live and breathe," God says, "every knee will bow before me; Every tongue will tell the honest truth that I and only I am God." So tend to your knitting. You've got your hands full just taking care of your own life before God. Forget about deciding what's right for each other. Here's what you need to be concerned about: that you don't get in the way of someone else, making life more difficult than it already is. I'm convinced—Jesus convinced me!—that everything as it is in itself is holy. We, of course, by the way we treat it or talk about it, can contaminate it. If you confuse others by making a big issue over what they eat or don't eat, you're no longer a companion with them in love, are you? These, remember, are persons for whom Christ died. Would you risk sending them to hell over an item in their diet? Don't you dare let a piece of God-blessed food become an occasion of soul-poisoning! God's kingdom isn't a matter of what you put in your stomach, for goodness' sake. It's what God does with your life as he sets it right, puts it together, and completes it with joy. Your task is to single-mindedly serve Christ. Do that and you'll kill two birds with one stone: pleasing the God above you and proving your worth to the people around you. So let's agree to use all our energy in getting along with each other. Help others with encouraging words; don't drag them down by finding fault. You're certainly not going to permit an argument over what is served or not served at supper to wreck God's work among you, are you? I said it before and I'll say it again: All food is good, but it can turn bad if you use it badly, if you use it to trip others up and send them sprawling. When you sit down to a meal, your primary concern should not be to feed your own face but to share the life of Jesus. So be sensitive and courteous to the others who are eating. Don't eat or say or do things that might interfere with the free exchange of love. Cultivate your own relationship with God, but don't impose it on others. You're fortunate if your behavior and your belief are coherent. But if you're not sure, if you notice that you are acting in ways inconsistent with what you believe—some days trying to impose your opinions on others, other days just trying to please them—then you know that you're out of line. If the way you live isn't consistent with what you believe, then it's wrong. - Romans 14 (the Message) :] |
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DaughterofEve
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| 10/07/2008 1:31 PM |
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Posted By emilyjanelle on 10/07/2008 10:05 AM Welcome with open arms fellow believers who don't see things the way you do. And don't jump all over them every time they do or say something you don't agree with—even when it seems that they are strong on opinions but weak in the faith department. Remember, they have their own history to deal with. Treat them gently.
For instance, a person who has been around for a while might well be convinced that he can eat anything on the table, while another, with a different background, might assume he should only be a vegetarian and eat accordingly. But since both are guests at Christ's table, wouldn't it be terribly rude if they fell to criticizing what the other ate or didn't eat? God, after all, invited them both to the table. Do you have any business crossing people off the guest list or interfering with God's welcome? If there are corrections to be made or manners to be learned, God can handle that without your help.
Or, say, one person thinks that some days should be set aside as holy and another thinks that each day is pretty much like any other. There are good reasons either way. So, each person is free to follow the convictions of conscience.
What's important in all this is that if you keep a holy day, keep it for God's sake; if you eat meat, eat it to the glory of God and thank God for prime rib; if you're a vegetarian, eat vegetables to the glory of God and thank God for broccoli. None of us are permitted to insist on our own way in these matters. It's God we are answerable to—all the way from life to death and everything in between—not each other. That's why Jesus lived and died and then lived again: so that he could be our Master across the entire range of life and death, and free us from the petty tyrannies of each other.
So where does that leave you when you criticize a brother? And where does that leave you when you condescend to a sister? I'd say it leaves you looking pretty silly—or worse. Eventually, we're all going to end up kneeling side by side in the place of judgment, facing God. Your critical and condescending ways aren't going to improve your position there one bit. Read it for yourself in Scripture:
"As I live and breathe," God says, "every knee will bow before me; Every tongue will tell the honest truth that I and only I am God." So tend to your knitting. You've got your hands full just taking care of your own life before God.
Forget about deciding what's right for each other. Here's what you need to be concerned about: that you don't get in the way of someone else, making life more difficult than it already is. I'm convinced—Jesus convinced me!—that everything as it is in itself is holy. We, of course, by the way we treat it or talk about it, can contaminate it.
If you confuse others by making a big issue over what they eat or don't eat, you're no longer a companion with them in love, are you? These, remember, are persons for whom Christ died. Would you risk sending them to hell over an item in their diet? Don't you dare let a piece of God-blessed food become an occasion of soul-poisoning!
God's kingdom isn't a matter of what you put in your stomach, for goodness' sake. It's what God does with your life as he sets it right, puts it together, and completes it with joy. Your task is to single-mindedly serve Christ. Do that and you'll kill two birds with one stone: pleasing the God above you and proving your worth to the people around you.
So let's agree to use all our energy in getting along with each other. Help others with encouraging words; don't drag them down by finding fault. You're certainly not going to permit an argument over what is served or not served at supper to wreck God's work among you, are you? I said it before and I'll say it again: All food is good, but it can turn bad if you use it badly, if you use it to trip others up and send them sprawling. When you sit down to a meal, your primary concern should not be to feed your own face but to share the life of Jesus. So be sensitive and courteous to the others who are eating. Don't eat or say or do things that might interfere with the free exchange of love.
Cultivate your own relationship with God, but don't impose it on others. You're fortunate if your behavior and your belief are coherent. But if you're not sure, if you notice that you are acting in ways inconsistent with what you believe—some days trying to impose your opinions on others, other days just trying to please them—then you know that you're out of line. If the way you live isn't consistent with what you believe, then it's wrong.
- Romans 14 (the Message)
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JoJo
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| 10/07/2008 5:23 PM |
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emilyjanelle I strongly agree with that passage! Everyone does have their own veiws and it is up to God totell themthey're wrong. I know I have issues, but we all, in fact, have issues that need to be dealt with. (Just so you know, I wasn't being angry in what I said b4, I was just trying to help... cuz a friend asked me to try and explain it better...) ANYWAY... If you feel the vid is wrong, at least you're being careful of what you allow into your head. All I know is, however, that If you dont stop and take the time toreach into other's lives in a way that they will let you, they'll never be saved. But yeah, I apologise if i seemed angry! |
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Turn up the music Turn it up loud Take a few chances Let it all out 'Cause you won't regret it Lookin' back from where you have been 'Cause it's not who you knew And it's not what you did It's how you live
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Ngaio
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| 10/08/2008 12:32 AM |
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I think the shorts were way to short for the video, and if it did fit the beachy scene then why were they wearing long sleves? yes there are worse videos out there but I think this was not the place, this is a site for boy to come as well also at the start the video was shot at chest level |
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Hannah
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| 10/17/2008 9:05 PM |
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| I felt the same way a little cuz lets face it not ALL girls can wear short shorts. I don't want to be mean either I just felt like the guys who see that video and then read the book might only be looking for the girl who can wear short shorts, and after reading the FYWO I know what goes through most guys heads when girls where form fitting clothing |
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Julie Fidler
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| 11/11/2008 7:48 PM |
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Ah, the video... 
I will keep my own opinions to myself. 
Just wanted to let you know that your views have been heard by the Powers That Be.
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shutterbug99
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| 11/17/2008 9:44 AM |
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| I tend to agree... For a christian book, the girls were dressed a little "eye candyish". |
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